Adam Lisagor Makes Magic on the Apple Vision Pro; Plus: On Site Opera (Podcast)
Sandwich Vision’s creator on doing live events for Apple’s spatial platform; the past, present, and future of On Site Opera


Another double header!
First up, today is iPhone pre-order day, and that makes it a great day to drop my interview from July with Adam Lisagor, the man behind Sandwich — the firm that got its start making ads for apps and companies big and small because of the the original iPhone and has gotten BACK into the app development game for the Vision Pro with the apps Television and Theatre — with the later being used to broadcast a live event captured in 3D and Spatial Audio at this June’s Apple World Wide Developer Conference.
This conversation with Adam, whose work I have long admired, is one of the most philosophical I’ve had all year, and hopefully will give you a nice think about media and the tools we use to make and consume it.
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Then, NoPro’s roving correspondent Martin Gimenez brings us an on-site interview with On Site Opera’s General Director & CEO Piper Gunnarson as its next and Artistic Director Sarah Meyers recorded at this year’s World Opera Forum and annual North American Opera Conference hosted by the LA Opera this past June. They dig into the past, present, and near future of the company, including the recently announced World Premiere of Lucidity which runs November 14–16 at Abrons Arts Center in New York City.
SHOW NOTES
- Sandwich
- Television (Apple Vision Pro)
- Theater (Apple Vision Pro)
- Video: playing with dalle3 images, luma image-to-video, and suno music. (X)
- How Sandwich streamed The Talk Show Live in 3D on Vision Pro (six colors)
- On Site Opera
- Lucidity
- The Next Stage 2025 Scholarship Applications
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